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My
DNA connects me to
Ui Maine
Ireland
Ui Ceallaigh (O'Kelleys)
DNA connects not just
me but also members of my O'Kelley family displayed on this website
to
ancient Ireland.
There is a 99.9% possibility that I share a
common male ancestor with the
current living descendent of
Hy-Many. The area
of about 200 to 1000 square miles in Ireland known as
Hy-Many
(pronounced "i Man ie")
and
appears as
Ui Maine when spelled in Gaelic, is located north and east of
Galway City Ireland and is sometimes known as O'Kelly country. You
can view this area on the map to the left and see the number of
O'Kelly Chiefs. In addition to my match with the descendent of
Ui Maine, I have 14 additional Irish Kelly matches at that
distance who are also closely related to each other providing a
clear indicator that my family has deep roots in the ancestral
Kellys of
Ui Maine
Irish family tree.
My DNA match to the current descendent of
Ui Maine
puts our common male ancestor living about three to six
hundred years before my ancestor came to America but maybe as far
back as just after the time when Tadhg Mor Ua Ceallaigh was slain at
the battle of Clontarf, Good Friday 1014 AD. (see page 99 and 100
of
The Tribes and Customs of Hy-Many
by Dr John O'Donovan). Authors
Alethea Jane Macon and
W E MacClenny present in their books the
possibility that our family descended from the
O'Kellys of Hy-Many Ireland, from
Maine
Mor and my DNA results
has confirmed their beliefs. DNA has not yet identified the
exact line of Kellys of my ancestor but it has brought me to
James
O'Kelly of Aughrim and his grandson
William Kelly of Buckfield Ireland.
There are a great many reason to believe this may be the family of our ancestor. I am seeking
a traceable descendant of this line for DNA testing.
This is
conclusive; my American family with
deep Irish roots did not descend from the Scots Irish plantation
period immigrates who came from Scotland or England in the 16th and
17th century and planted or lived in Ireland a few generations before coming to
America. Our line descended from the native Irish O'Kellys of
Ui
Maine
Ireland or their closely related cousins which was
located in the province of Connaught in County Galway and Roscommon
and our ancestors lived in Ireland for thousands of years and
because our family came to America from Ireland in the second
quarter of the 1700s as protestant,
spelling
our name in an early English spelling, and settled in English
Virginia and not in colonies friendly to Irish Catholics, it is
certain we descended from a very small group of O'Kellys who were
landed Gentry or allied closely with the landed Gentry who
educated their children in English ways and for what
every inducement made these changes probably in the 16th century
when King Henry VIII set to convert all English and Irish to his
protestant Anglican Church.
My primary goal has
been accomplished, DNA testing has identified the origins of my
ancestor, William Kelley.
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If you believe you descended from
or are related to any line on this website and you have completed DNA
testing, please share those results so we can determine if my conclusions
may be in error. If you would like to complete a DNA test to
learn if your family may have descended from our line, please
click here.
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My DNA Results
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My DNA results will be
valid for all O'Kelley descendents that share our common ancestor (William
(abt 1730, ->
Charles
1756 -> Charles
Dean
1795 ->
James Stamps 1824.
If you descended from another line in this family, from one of the
other brothers, your results will be very close to mine but maybe
not exact there could be one marker difference.
Below are my marker results.
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PANEL 1 (1-12)
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Locus |
1
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2
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3
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4
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5
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6
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7
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8
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9
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10
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11
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12
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DYS# |
393
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390
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19*
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391
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385a
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385b
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426
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388
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439
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389-1
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392
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389-2
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Alleles |
13
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24
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14
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11
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11
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14
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12
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12
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12
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13
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13
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30
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PANEL 2 (13-25)
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Locus |
13
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14
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15
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16
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17
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18
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19
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20
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21
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22
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23
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24
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25
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DYS# |
458
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459a
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459b
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455
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454
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447
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437
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448
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449
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464a**
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464b**
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464c**
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464d**
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Alleles |
18
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9
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9
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11
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11
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25
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15
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19
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26
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15
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15
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15
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17
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PANEL 3 (26-37)
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Locus |
26
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27
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28
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29
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30
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31
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32
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33
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34
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35
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36
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37
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DYS# |
460
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GATA H4
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YCA II a
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YCA II b
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456
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607
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576
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570
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CDY a
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CDY b
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442
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438
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Alleles |
10
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11
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19
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23
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17
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15
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18
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17
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36
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37
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12
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12
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PANEL 4 (38 - 47)
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Locus |
38
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39
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40
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41
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42
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43
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44
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45
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46
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47
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DYS# |
531
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578
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395S1a
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395S1b
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590
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537
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641
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472
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406S1
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511
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Alleles |
11
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9
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15
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16
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8
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10
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10
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8
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10
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11
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PANEL 4 (48 - 60)
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Locus |
48
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49
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50
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51
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52
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53
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54
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55
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56
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57
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58
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59
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60
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DYS# |
425
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413a
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413b
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557
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594
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436
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490
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534
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450
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444
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481
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520
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446
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Alleles |
12
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23
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23
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17
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10
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12
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12
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14
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8
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12
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22
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20
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13
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PANEL 4 (61 - 67)
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Locus |
61
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62
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63
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64
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65
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66
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67
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DYS# |
617
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568
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487
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572
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640
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492
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565
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Alleles |
12
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11
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13
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11
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11
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12
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12
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*Also known as DYS
394
If you are a known and
traceable member of someone displayed on this website and you have DNA
test results please
contact me. If you are a male with
the name Kelly, Kelley, O'Kelly or O'Kelley and you desire to know
if you are related to our family line, you can join the project and
submit your sample to learn if there is a family relationship.
If you are a known male descendent of
Rev James O'Kelly searching for your family roots, I would
encourage you to join the Kelly DNA Project and complete a DNA test
as that will prove or disprove Rev James O'Kelly
relationship to our family. It is not free, there is a fee that
ranges between $150 and $250 dollars depending on the number of
markers you desire for DNA testing but I believe this to be a
reasonable amount and could save a lot of time and money wasted
going down an incorrect research paths. Only one male
descendent need submit a DNA sample so the costs could be shared by
interested family members. If you would like to know more about
DNA testing click on the
DNA testing link.
The
Kelley DNA Project was established
by Raymond Kelly. The purpose of the project is best learned
by reading the pages relating to the project. I appear within
Group 15 Ui Maine Branch 2, you can select full view below to see
others around me. I have listed
four links below:
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Explains the projects goals of
DNA testing
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Explains how the grouping is determined |
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Table showing relations
(full view) I appear in Group 15 Ui Maine Branch 2 |
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Greater detail. |
Members of our family known to
have tested
Research based upon
DNA Matches
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Looking at
my DNA results and matches it occurs to me that
there are many things that the Irish did that
muddles up genealogy. There was a time when Irish clans
exchanged their eldest sons as hostages in order to keep the
peace between neighboring clans. For many their lives
were miserable and short. In some cases these sons
were sometimes
married to the daughters of their hostage family and that is
where the genealogy problems occur. If an O'Kelley male was
given as a hostage to the Connelly clan and that O'Kelley
male took a Connelly woman as his wife and they had
children, those children living in the Connelly clan
would become known as the descendants of Connelly or Ó Connelly and after generations the O'Kelley line would be
forgotten and when the Gaelic description of "descendant of"
Connelly was translated into an English surname the male Conleys
that carried the Y markers of their O'Kelley ancestor would
bear a Conley surname causing considerable confusion to
those doing DNA testing which explain why
I have matches to different surnames. This
occurred in reverse, males from other clans who
were held as hostage by the Kellys would marry Kelly women
and their offspring would be know as descendents of Ceallach or
Ó Ceallaigh.
Their male Y markers will not be
Kelly but their name and all their descendents will be.
Spoils of War and infidelity
must count for a great deal of the DNA matchs to many
surnames. We like to think of our ancestors as we
think of our recent grandparents, kind, loving and Christian
but that just wasn't true. Our ancestors chief
occupation was war and it was often their neighbors they
were warring upon. They took what they wanted
including raping the women. This is a difficult
concept for many to accept but one only has to look at WWII,
Korea, and Vietnam to see that even in our modern times this
practice occurred. American GIs brought back many
captured items that belonged to the people we were waging
war upon and we also left behind a considerable number of
chiildren fathered by our America soldiers. One
only has to look at our conquest of the Native Americans to
see that just a little over one hundred years ago we
practiced this and in our recent war with Iraq, who can
forget Vice President Cheney justifying our war with Iraq by
telling us we would pay for the war from Iraqi oil revenues.
Leaders have been making these promises for years, appealing
to the natural greed in humans to motivate the people to go
to war and
justify
thievery
and our ancestors were no different but war was not the only
way the Y DNA of one family was spread to other surnames.
Infidelity is as old as the human race, when the husband is
away the wife will play and the reverse is also true and many poor daughters were willing given over to the sons of
the wealthy hoping good fortune might return to the family.
I recently read that if DNA testing was done in America
today we would find that at least 30% of our children had
different fathers than the father that appears on their
birth certificate so infidelity must always be considered
and the more wealthy and powerful a family was the more
likely their Y DNA will appear in a greater number of
surnames.
Fostering was also widely practiced where sons and daughters
were sent to live with a more prosperous family and sometime
the foster children would take the surname of the foster family.
Most often the family doing the foster would receive a
payment for that service, so in many ways it was very much
like our modern practice of sending a child off to college.
Fostering was also used as a form of debt payment, children
would be given over to the foster family to discharge a
debt. Fostering more than any other possibility may
account for the mix in DNA within surnames. Children
born to daughters normally were given the surnames of their
fathers but once the children reached fostering age around
eight years old, a fostering with more well to do related
families could occur. In this example the son of an
O'Kelley might be fostered by his maternal family because of
their wealth and status and that son could take on the
surname of his fostering family providing us with an
explanation as to how an O'Kelley Y DNA could become a
Conley or Farrell.
There are other customs as explained in "The
Short History of Ireland" by Dr Johnathan Bardon that
complicates genealogy. The Irish followed the
teachings of the Old Testament by having a primary wife and
secondary wives and concubines. An Irish husband could
send his wife and her children back to her family and the
children would often then take the name of their maternal
grandfather. This book also tells about "fostering" a
practice where the Irish may send their children to live
with a family for any number of reasons and those children
would sometimes become the children of that family taking
the name of the family. Another custom that may seem
shocking is there are several accounts in this book about
the Irish women's dress. They would wear short smocks
and nothing else. The Spaniards wrote in their letters
home about the beauty of the Irish women and how immodest
they were about their private parts being exposed. I
am certain this too accounts for a great number of genealogy
surprises.
Nancy Stenson in her book tiled "Basic
Irish" provides additional explanations why
surnames can not be relied upon. The Irish would
sometimes take the maternal name if the maternal relations
was powerful , wealthy, or famous and when there were two of
the same name in a village, they would use a
local name that identifies the person with their fathers or
mothers and not their family. For example if Farrell Ua Ceallaigh and Patrick Ua Ceallaigh each had a son name
Shaun Ua Ceallaigh, in the village they would be known as
Shaun MacFarrell and Shaun MacPatrick and in some cases these
names stuck and were passed down and as grandsons they would
appear as O'Farrell and O'Patrick.
Another activity that is not talked about is the Irish
as was most cultures were a
warrior race that took what it wanted from its neighbors.
This is part of the reason England and Ireland dealt so
harshly with each other, the Irish raided England and took both slaves and
property killing those who opposed them. Because our common ancestor was probably a
warrior and he impregnated many conquered woman as was the
custom; the taking of the spoils of war, it too makes it
possible that many Kelly males are living under different surnames. The mistake that is
commonly made
by researchers is we tend to think of our ancestors like we
think of a favorite modern grandfather and that just isn't the
way our ancestors were. They lived in a dog eat dog world
and were often cruel and violent.
If you do genealogy
you may want to keep this in mind.
It does not escape my notice that
some DNA testing services tell people that if the surname of a match
is different from yours then it is less likely that one is
related and I find that totally unacceptable. We use
DNA to prove relationships in our courts. Sometimes
DNA is the sole evidence that sets a convicted person free
or condemns an accused person sometimes to death so either
this technology is exact or it is not and if it is not then
why do we give it so much elevation in our courts? I
recommend following the DNA and permitting it to lead you
where ever it takes you because it is far more reliable than
a document, record or a surname.
But hidden from our history is a darker and more
troubling reason why DNA results can connect one to so many
surnames and that is how our America was really
established. Our history books tell us that most came
to America as indentured servants but that is simply not
true. English King James of the King James Bible
started an enterprise of transporting the undesirables of
England, Scotland, and Ireland to the English Colonies where
they put on the auction block and sold as lifetime
slaves. Many were worked to death and if they had
children those children were lifetime slaves. White slaves
predate black slaves and white slaves were treated often worse
than black slaves because they were so cheap. One has
to understand that to obtain a black slave, they had to be
bought in Africa from those who captured slaves. White
slaves were simply taken and put on ships and sent to
America and Barbados. It has been estimated that
during a 150 year period beginning in King James time more
than 100,000 Irish children were taken to become life time
slaves in the colonies and just as black slaves sometimes
took the names of their masters, it can be certain that this
is the explanation as to how so many Kelley male children
have surnames other than Kelley, it is likely the Anglican
English protestants killed their parents and transported
their children to America to be sold for profit on the slave
auction blocks. Irish women were highly prized because
of their beauty and were used as sexual consorts or in
brothels. We like to think that Christianity makes us
different from the rest of the world but the real truth is
we just hid our dirty laundry better than most. King
James and his Bible will have much to answer for when he
stands judgment before God.
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