My DNA connects me to Ui Maine Ireland
Ui Ceallaigh (O'Kelleys)


DNA connects not just me but also members of my O'Kelley family displayed on this website to ancient Ireland There is a 99.9% possibility that I share a common male ancestor with the current living descendent of Hy-Many. The area of about 200 to 1000 square miles in Ireland known as Hy-Many (pronounced "i Man ie") and appears as Ui Maine when spelled in Gaelic, is located north and east of Galway City Ireland and is sometimes known as O'Kelly country. You can view this area on the map to the left and see the number of O'Kelly Chiefs.  In addition to my match with the descendent of Ui Maine, I have 14 additional Irish Kelly matches at that distance who are also closely related to each other providing a clear indicator that my family has deep roots in the ancestral Kellys of Ui Maine Irish family tree.  My DNA match to the current descendent of Ui Maine puts our common male ancestor living about three to six hundred years before my ancestor came to America but maybe as far back as just after the time when Tadhg Mor Ua Ceallaigh was slain at the battle of Clontarf, Good Friday 1014 AD.  (see page 99 and 100 of The Tribes and Customs of Hy-Many by Dr John O'Donovan).   Authors Alethea Jane Macon and W E MacClenny present in their books the possibility that our family descended from the O'Kellys of Hy-Many Ireland, from Maine Mor and my DNA results has confirmed their beliefs.  DNA has not yet identified the exact line of Kellys of my ancestor but it has brought me to James O'Kelly of Aughrim and his grandson William Kelly of Buckfield Ireland.  There are a great many reason to believe this may be the family of our ancestor.  I am seeking a traceable descendant of this line for DNA testing.

This is conclusive; my American family with deep Irish roots did not descend from the Scots Irish plantation period immigrates who came from Scotland or England in the 16th and 17th century and planted or lived in Ireland a few generations before coming to America. Our line descended from the native Irish O'Kellys of Ui Maine Ireland or their closely related cousins which was located in the province of Connaught in County Galway and Roscommon and our ancestors lived in Ireland for thousands of years and because our family came to America from Ireland in the second quarter of the 1700s as protestant, spelling our name in an early English spelling, and settled in English Virginia and not in colonies friendly to Irish Catholics, it is certain we descended from a very small group of O'Kellys who were landed Gentry or allied closely with the landed Gentry who educated their children in English ways and for what every inducement made these changes probably in the 16th century when King Henry VIII set to convert all English and Irish to his protestant Anglican Church.

My primary goal has been accomplished, DNA testing has identified the origins of my ancestor, William Kelley

 

If you believe you descended from or are related to any line on this website and you have completed DNA testing, please share those results so we can determine if my conclusions may be in error.  If you would like to complete a DNA test to learn if your family may have descended from our line, please click here.


My DNA Results

My DNA results will be valid for all O'Kelley descendents that share our common ancestor (William (abt 1730, -> Charles 1756 -> Charles Dean 1795 -> James Stamps 1824.  If you descended from another line in this family, from one of the other brothers, your results will be very close to mine but maybe not exact there could be one marker difference.     Below are my marker results. 

PANEL 1 (1-12)
Locus
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
DYS#
393
390
19*
391
385a
385b
426
388
439
389-1
392
389-2
Alleles
13
24
14
11
11
14
12
12
12
13
13
30
PANEL 2 (13-25)
Locus
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
DYS#
458
459a
459b
455
454
447
437
448
449
464a**
464b**
464c**
464d**
Alleles
18
9
9
11
11
25
15
19
26
15
15
15
17
PANEL 3 (26-37)
Locus
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
DYS#
460
GATA H4
YCA II a
YCA II b
456
607
576
570
CDY a
CDY b
442
438
Alleles
10
11
19
23
17
15
18
17
36
37
12
12
PANEL 4 (38 - 47)
Locus
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
DYS#
531
578
395S1a
395S1b
590
537
641
472
406S1
511
Alleles
11
9
15
16
8
10
10
8
10
11
PANEL 4 (48 - 60)
Locus
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
DYS#
425
413a
413b
557
594
436
490
534
450
444
481
520
446
Alleles
12
23
23
17
10
12
12
14
8
12
22
20
13
PANEL 4 (61 - 67)
Locus
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
DYS#
617
568
487
572
640
492
565
Alleles
12
11
13
11
11
12
12

*Also known as DYS 394



If you are a known and traceable member of someone displayed on this website and you have DNA test results please contact me.  If you are a male with the name Kelly, Kelley, O'Kelly or O'Kelley and you desire to know if you are related to our family line, you can join the project and submit your sample to learn if there is a family relationship.  If you are a known male descendent of Rev James O'Kelly searching for your family roots, I would encourage you to join the Kelly DNA Project and complete a DNA test as that will prove or disprove Rev James O'Kelly relationship to our family. It is not free, there is a fee that ranges between $150 and $250 dollars depending on the number of markers you desire for DNA testing but I believe this to be a reasonable amount and could save a lot of time and money wasted going down an incorrect research paths.  Only one male descendent need submit a DNA sample so the costs could be shared by interested family members. If you would like to know more about DNA testing click on the DNA testing link.

The Kelley DNA Project was established by Raymond Kelly.  The purpose of the project is best learned by reading the pages relating to the project.  I appear within Group 15 Ui Maine Branch 2, you can select full view below to see others around me.  I have listed four links below:

Explains the projects goals of DNA testing
Explains how the grouping is determined
Table showing relations (full view) I appear in Group 15 Ui Maine Branch 2
Greater detail.

Members of our family known to have tested

 

Research based upon DNA Matches

Looking at my DNA results and matches it occurs to me that there are many things that the Irish did that muddles up genealogy.  There was a time when Irish clans exchanged their eldest sons as hostages in order to keep the peace between neighboring clans.  For many their lives were miserable and short.  In some cases these sons were sometimes married to the daughters of their hostage family and that is where the genealogy problems occur.  If an O'Kelley male was given as a hostage to the Connelly clan and that O'Kelley male took a Connelly woman as his wife and they had children, those children living in the Connelly clan would become known as the descendants of Connelly or Ó Connelly and after generations the O'Kelley line would be forgotten and when the Gaelic description of "descendant of" Connelly was translated into an English surname the male Conleys that carried the Y markers of their O'Kelley ancestor would bear a Conley surname causing considerable confusion to those doing DNA testing which explain why I have matches to different surnames.  This occurred in reverse, males from other clans who were held as hostage by the Kellys would marry Kelly women and their offspring would be know as descendents of Ceallach or Ó Ceallaigh Their male Y markers will not be Kelly but their name and all their descendents will be. 

Spoils of War and infidelity must count for a great deal of the DNA matchs to many surnames.  We like to think of our ancestors as we think of our recent grandparents, kind, loving and Christian but that just wasn't true.  Our ancestors chief occupation was war and it was often their neighbors they were warring upon.  They took what they wanted including raping the women.  This is a difficult concept for many to accept but one only has to look at WWII, Korea, and Vietnam to see that even in our modern times this practice occurred.  American GIs brought back many captured items that belonged to the people we were waging war upon and we also left behind a considerable number of chiildren fathered by our America soldiers.   One only has to look at our conquest of the Native Americans to see that just a little over one hundred years ago we practiced this and in our recent war with Iraq, who can forget Vice President Cheney justifying our war with Iraq by telling us we would pay for the war from Iraqi oil revenues.  Leaders have been making these promises for years, appealing to the natural greed in humans to motivate the people to go to war and justify thievery and our ancestors were no different but war was not the only way the Y DNA of one family was spread to other surnames.  Infidelity is as old as the human race, when the husband is away the wife will play and the reverse is also true and many poor daughters were willing given over to the sons of the wealthy hoping good fortune might return to the family.  I recently read that if DNA testing was done in America today we would find that at least 30% of our children had different fathers than the father that appears on their birth certificate so infidelity must always be considered and the more wealthy and powerful a family was the more likely their Y DNA will appear in a greater number of surnames. 

Fostering was also widely practiced where sons and daughters were sent to live with a more prosperous family and sometime the foster children would take the surname of the foster family.  Most often the family doing the foster would receive a payment for that service, so in many ways it was very much like our modern practice of sending a child off to college.  Fostering was also used as a form of debt payment, children would be given over to the foster family to discharge a debt.  Fostering more than any other possibility may account for the mix in DNA within surnames.  Children born to daughters normally were given the surnames of their fathers but once the children reached fostering age around eight years old, a fostering with more well to do related families could occur.  In this example the son of an O'Kelley might be fostered by his maternal family because of their wealth and status and that son could take on the surname of his fostering family providing us with an explanation as to how an O'Kelley Y DNA could become a Conley or Farrell.

There are other customs as explained in "The Short History of Ireland" by Dr Johnathan Bardon that complicates genealogy.  The Irish followed the teachings of the Old Testament by having a primary wife and secondary wives and concubines.  An Irish husband could send his wife and her children back to her family and the children would often then take the name of their maternal grandfather.  This book also tells about "fostering" a practice where the Irish may send their children to live with a family for any number of reasons and those children would sometimes become the children of that family taking the name of the family.  Another custom that may seem shocking is there are several accounts in this book about the Irish women's dress.  They would wear short smocks and nothing else.  The Spaniards wrote in their letters home about the beauty of the Irish women and how immodest they were about their private parts being exposed.  I am certain this too accounts for a great number of genealogy surprises. 

Nancy Stenson in her book tiled "Basic Irish"  provides additional explanations why surnames can not be relied upon.  The Irish would sometimes take the maternal name if the maternal relations was powerful , wealthy, or famous and when there were two of the same name in a village, they would use a local name that identifies the person with their fathers or mothers and not their family.  For example if Farrell Ua Ceallaigh and Patrick Ua Ceallaigh each had a son name Shaun Ua Ceallaigh, in the village they would be known as Shaun MacFarrell and Shaun MacPatrick and in some cases these names stuck and were passed down and as grandsons they would appear as O'Farrell and O'Patrick.

Another activity that is not talked about is the Irish as was most cultures were a warrior race that took what it wanted from its neighbors.  This is part of the reason England and Ireland dealt so harshly with each other, the Irish raided England and took both slaves and property killing those who opposed them.  Because our common ancestor was probably a warrior and he impregnated many conquered woman as was the custom; the taking of the spoils of war, it too makes it possible that many Kelly males are living under different surnames.  The mistake that is commonly made by researchers is we tend to think of our ancestors like we think of a favorite modern grandfather and that just isn't the way our ancestors were.  They lived in a dog eat dog world and were often cruel and violent.  If you do genealogy you may want to keep this in mind. 

It does not escape my notice that some DNA testing services tell people that if the surname of a match is different from yours then it is less likely that one is related and I find that totally unacceptable.  We use DNA to prove relationships in our courts.  Sometimes DNA is the sole evidence that sets a convicted person free or condemns an accused person sometimes to death so either this technology is exact or it is not and if it is not then why do we give it so much elevation in our courts?  I recommend following the DNA and permitting it to lead you where ever it takes you because it is far more reliable than a document, record or a surname.

But hidden from our history is a darker and more troubling reason why DNA results can connect one to so many surnames and that is how our America was really established.  Our history books tell us that most came to America as indentured servants but that is simply not true.  English King James of the King James Bible started an enterprise of transporting the undesirables of England, Scotland, and Ireland to the English Colonies where they  put on the auction block and sold as lifetime slaves.  Many were worked to death and if they had children those children were lifetime slaves. White slaves predate black slaves and white slaves were treated often worse than black slaves because they were so cheap.  One has to understand that to obtain a black slave, they had to be bought in Africa from those who captured slaves.  White slaves were simply taken and put on ships and sent to America and Barbados.  It has been estimated that during a 150 year period beginning in King James time more than 100,000 Irish children were taken to become life time slaves in the colonies and just as black slaves sometimes took the names of their masters, it can be certain that this is the explanation as to how so many Kelley male children have surnames other than Kelley, it is likely the Anglican English protestants killed their parents and transported their children to America to be sold for profit on the slave auction blocks.  Irish women were highly prized because of their beauty and were used as sexual consorts or in brothels.  We like to think that Christianity makes us different from the rest of the world but the real truth is we just hid our dirty laundry better than most.  King James and his Bible will have much to answer for when he stands judgment before God.

 


 

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